Υποψήφιοι Πρόεδροι (2009)

Sergio Ramos έγραψε:Πράγματι γιατί δεν τον βάζουν. Αν και να τον βάλουν θα έχει ο Πέρεθ 85% και ο Παλάθιος 5%. Detailsssssss

billybiros έγραψε:Σάινθ και Παλάθιος δεν φαίνονται προς το παρόν διατεθειμένοι να βάλουν υποψηφιότητα.

MaDriDisM έγραψε:Μπορεί ο Πέρεθ να μην αρέσει που είναι αυτός που προτιμά ο κόσμος σε υποστηρικτες άλλων διοικητικών σχημάτων, αλλά για αυτό δεν φταίνε οι εφημερίδες.

billybiros έγραψε:Nαι βέβαια, ο κόσμος της Ρεάλ ετσι ξαφνικά (χωρίς να επηρεαστεί απο τις φυλλάδες) αναπόλησε ξαφνικά την τελευταία τριετία του Πέρεθ. Σου λέει παικταράδες του στύλ Γκράβεσεν δεν έχουμε τώρα.

billybiros έγραψε:Δεν ξέρω, αλλά αν έχεις ακουστά "σχέσεις επιχειρηματιών και ΜΜΕ" !!!!
Madridism το ξέρουμε οτι τα ΜΜΕ σπρώχνουν τον Πέρεθ.
Μην κρυβόμαστε πίσω απο ο δάκτυλο μας (αυτά είναι Φαρ$ελονιές).

billybiros έγραψε:Απλά θεωρώ αστείο να λέμε οτι έτσι ξαφνικά ο κόσμος της Ρεάλ πεθύμησε τον Πέρεθ (που δεν λέει αν θα είναι υποψήφιος).

billybiros έγραψε:Είναι σαν να λέμε οτι είναι θεωρεία συνωμοσίας οτι η ΑΣ και η Μάρκα υποστηρίζουν τη Ρεάλ και η Ελ Μούντο Ντεπορτόβο την Μπαρτσελόνα!!! Δεν είναι αυτά θεωρίες συνωμοσίας αλλά η πραγματικότητα.

billybiros έγραψε:Δηλαδή για να καταλάβω ... βγαίνει η ΑΣ κάθε μέρα και βάζει πρωτοσέλιδο τον Πέρεθ (που δεν έχει ανακοινώσει ακόμα οτι είναι υποψήφιος) και εσύ ακόμα δεν το κατάλαβες οτι τον στηρίζει; Γιατί δεν το κάνει και για τους άλλους υποψηφίους (που μάλιστα το έχουν ανακοινώσει).

When Ramón Calderon was forced to resign as president of Real Madrid last Thursday, he described his departure as a "victory for evil and injustice". The remark, delivered through tears and in a breaking voice, showed just how deeply paranoid he had become, how bitterly he judged those who manoeuvred against him. It revealed, above all, the extent to which he felt defeated by the hidden man who stood to profit most from his disgrace.

Thursday may have saddened Calderón but it did not entirely surprise him; he always believed an assault would come. His greatest failing was that he made his enemies' job so very easy. From the day he took over, the president saw conspiracy at every turn.

He complained of a media campaign conducted against him, particularly by radio station Cadena Cope, and the newspapers El Mundo and Marca, both part of the Unidad Editorial group – despite the unconditional toadying of one Marca columnist. He complained of deliberate leaks from within the club, of secret recordings and bugs. What he never did was provide proof of any of it. And certainly not of the Machiavellian hand that he imagined pulling strings in the darkness.

For Calderón one sinister figure cast a longer, darker shadow than any other. Rarely has the word nemesis been so apt. In his troubled mind, evil and injustice were synonyms for the former president Florentino Pérez. Calderón, seemingly terrified, convinced himself that Pérez was behind every problem he faced and took every opportunity to attack him. Pérez, for his part, kept his distance and maintained a discreet silence. He said nothing; maybe he did not want to, maybe he recognised that he did not need to.

Certainly, his silence wound Calderón up more. It could have been that Pérez really wasn't interested – he had left Madrid, his wife was seriously ill, his company ACS, one of the world's biggest, had to find a strategy to face the global financial meltdown, particularly acute in Spain's construction industry – but Calderón would never believe that. He must be up to no good! If Calderón was right then it was a desperately uneven battle: Pérez played the wily fox; Calderón, a headless, hysterical chicken.

Calderón's paranoia became uncomfortably, almost pathetically palpable when Pérez appeared in public for the first time in three years. While Calderón was facing white hankies at home, a photo appeared in the press of Pérez and Zinedine Zidane before a charity match in Morocco. The Madrid midfielder Javi García shrugged at what he considered a "normal", innocent photo between two men who know each other. Calderón could not agree less.

It is a photo that is likely to be repeated this summer. It is also a photo that sent Calderón into a spin, ranting about how Pérez was a trouble-seeking opportunist, only appearing at times of crisis. "I would have liked to have seen him when things were going well," he snapped. Everyone, Calderón added, is quick to recall photos of Pérez with Zidane and Ronaldo, or Figo, or Beckham, but "what I'd like to see is the photo of him presenting [failed Italian signing Antonio] Cassano."

Never mind the fact the photo he would like to see does not exist – Pérez did not present Cassano; the man who did was Ramón Calderón, then a director – it revealed just how great was his paranoia. Imagine if Pérez had actually said anything.

And yet just because Calderón was paranoid did not mean they were not out to get him. Just because Calderón was paranoid did not mean Pérez – a stunningly wealthy, enormously influential man with friends in government, industry and throughout the media – was not planning a comeback.

And if he wasn't already doing so, it might have been Calderon's very paranoia that encouraged Pérez to return. It was certainly his paranoia and desperation – a desperation that has contributed decisively to the disastrousness of his presidency – that paved the way for that comeback.

Marca's demolition of Calderón was fantastically handled, the evidence arrayed against him damning, successful and unanswerable. It did little to dispel the outgoing president's paranoia; not just because it destroyed him but because of who it benefited.

New president Vicente Boluda was interviewed by the newspaper upon taking charge. The quote that Marca chose to run on its cover? "Florentino's management of the club was magnificent". Its last two covers have been: "Kaka is waiting for a call from Florentino, says Carlo Ancelotti"; "Kaka would only go to Madrid with Florentino, says Roberto Carlos".

This from the paper that had already claimed Ronaldo had reached an agreement with Pérez – even while Calderón occupied the presidential chair. Three out of four covers bolstering the reputation of a man who has not even declared an intention to stand, or even opened his mouth, yet one with whom the paper has maintained a close relationship over the last month.

Calderón was right: Pérez signed Cassano too. But it is the photo of Zidane that everyone remembers and it is the Frenchman who will likely accompany him on the campaign trail this summer. Three years of failure have been largely forgotten; the final disastrous collapse of galacticism swiftly glossed over. Calderón hasn't made Pérez look good, he has made him look brilliant. He signed Figo, Zidane, and Ronaldo; Calderón did not sign Kaka, Cesc or Ronaldo.

The undisputed winner in Calderón's departure is Pérez, who now has the support of fans, and the now unmasked backing of the media. His return has been beautifully set up. Everyone, bar him, is talking about it; he has not had to campaign, everyone else is doing it for him. He will now be able to return as a "saviour", apparently reluctant, apparently an act of abnegation – a service to the club.

And with Pérez comes players. Big players. Or at least the unuttered promise of them, the threat to other clubs. Manchester City's failure does not look a coincidence now; United's ability to throw off a bid for Ronaldo does not look so steadfast. Former Madrid sporting director Arrigo Saachi today insisted that "Perez will return and he'll go for the three [Messi, Ronaldo, and Kaka]", just as Ancelotti and Roberto Carlos had already said of Kaka.

Sacchi did fire a warning, telling Pérez to stick to being a president. It is a telling remark: Pérez subverted the normal rules of sporting success, distrusting his staff, interfering where he should not and going through four directors of football, six coaches and 20 players in just three years. But it is a warning that has fallen on deaf ears; only the "Kaka will join Madrid" part really registered.

Calderón was a president defined by the star players he didn't sign, Pérez by the star players he did. And so it is that, incredibly, everything else – from the arrogance to the failure, the instability to the farce – has been forgiven. It appears now that everyone is simply waiting for Pérez to come out and admit what is an open secret: that he will make a comeback and no one will stand in his way. So far he has not said a word; when he does, it is likely to be the last word.

MaDriDisM έγραψε:Μάλιστα, δηλαδή η ΑΣ παίρνει γραμμή από τον Πέρεθ, κι ενώ όλος ο κόσμος θέλει τον Παλάθιος, τελικά τους κάνει οπαδούς του Πέρεθ....

MaDriDisM έγραψε:
Εσείς όμως εδώ μου λέγατε ότι η Μάρκα είναι κυρίως που κάνει προπαγάνδα για τον Πέρεθ. Άρα, πώς γίνεται η ανταγωνίστρια της ΑΣ του Πέρεθ να υποστηρίζει τον Πέρεθ??

MaDriDisM έγραψε:
Πώς γίνεται επίσης όλα τα σάιτ (ισπανικά και ξένα) να έχουν ως σίγουρο την εκλογή του Πέρεθ?? Ελέγχνται από τον Πέρεθ όλα????

MaDriDisM έγραψε:
Ακόμα δεν μου απάντησες όμως, ΑΝ Ο ΠΑΛΑΘΙΟΣ ΠΡΟΒΑΛΟΤΑΝ ΣΤΗΝ ΑΣ ΚΑΙ ΤΗΝ ΜΑΡΚΑ, ΠΙΣΤΕΥΕΙΣ ΟΤΙ ΘΑ ΚΕΡΔΙΖΕ ΤΟΝ ΠΕΡΕΘ?

MaDriDisM έγραψε:Η πραγματικότητα είναι ότι ο Πέρεθ έφερε κάποτε τους καλύτερους παίκτες του κόσμου στη Ρεάλ (εκτός εάν δεν τους έφερε και ήταν ψέμματα της ΑΣ και της Μαρκα-εικονική πραγματικότητα ας πούμε) και ο κόσμος τώρα θέλει τον Κακά ή τον Ρονάλντο. Αυτός που εμπνέει περισσότερη εμπιστοσύνη ότι μπορεί να το κάνει είναι ο Πέρεθ, τι να κάνουμε.........

billybiros έγραψε:κι εσύ πώς νομίζεις οτι διαρρέουν όλα αυτά τα σενάρια περί Πέρεθ;
και γιατί διαρρέουν όλα προς ένα μέσω (την ΑΣ) και όχι προς άλλα;

billybiros έγραψε:Πότε το είπα εγώ αυτό;

billybiros έγραψε:Δεν ξέρω αν τους πληρώνει αλλά δεν βλέπεις οτι τα δύο βασικά μέσα (ΑΣ και Μαρκα) + τα ξαδερφάκια τους (η Ελ Παις για την ΑΣ και η Ελ Μούντο για τη Μάρκα) και έχουν καλές σχέσεις με τον Πέρεθ και επηρεάζουν τον κόσμο της Ρεάλ.

billybiros έγραψε:
Είναι απλά τα πράγματα Κλέονα.
Οπως το star στην Ελλάδα είναι συμφερόντων Βαρδινογιάννη -
ετσι και στην Ισπανία ο όμιλος "Grupo Prisa" είναι συμφερόντων Πέρεθ.

billybiros έγραψε:Ποια είναι τα "ολα";
Θες να τα δούμε ένα - ένα.

billybiros έγραψε:Εσύ πιστεύεις πως αν ο Πέρεθ δεν προβαλλόταν κάθε μέρα από τα μέσα του, θα είχε ελπίδες να κερδίσει τις εκλογές;

billybiros έγραψε:H πραγματικότητα είναι και οτι επί τελευταίας τριετίας Πέρεθ η ομάδα έμεινε άτιτλη.
Το τμήμα μπάσκετ διαλύθηκε.
και τρώγαμε κάτι τριάρες απο τη Φαρσα μέσα στο Μπερναμπέου.
(εκτός κι αν είναι αυτά ψέμματα;)